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Detroit Red Wings 2 Truths & a Lie: Simon Edvinsson Edition

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The dog days of summer, especially in the hockey cycle, are melting away. This week kicks off the Traverse City prospect tournament, which starts the eight month hockey journey for the Detroit Red Wings.

A year ago, Moritz Seider and Lucas Raymond captivated everyone’s attention through the preseason, and proved they belonged with the big club. Seider would go onto to win the Calder Trophy as the league’s best rookie. Raymond would hold his own, scoring 23 goals and 57 points in a full season’s worth of work.

So far, so good for Steve Yzerman and the front office hitting on its first round picks from 2019 and 2020.

The next in line is 2021 first round pick Simon Edvinsson. When Yzerman spent in free agency, the roster became more and more crowded, muddling the certainty of Edvinsson carving out a spot on the team.

Like Seider and Raymond before him, he’ll need to earn his place and hold onto it. Here’s a closer look, reading into what pundits and even Yzerman himself have said. It’s two truths and a lie about Edvinsson.

Truth: It’s Edvinsson’s Job To Lose in the Preseason

Sure, Yzerman went out and signed Ben Chiarot, Robert Hagg, and Mark Pysyk, all of whom add to the blue line. Chiarot stands to be a first or potentially a second pairing guy. Where does that leave Edvinsson?

If you take into account what Yzerman said back in July, maybe he’s in a pretty good spot. Especially now that he signed some depth.

“His skating his excellent. We’re optimistic,” Yzerman said. “We’ll give him an opportunity. If he’s ready to play and play a regular role that would be great for us. We’ll just kind of let the whole thing play itself out, but the World Juniors will be a great stepping stone coming into training camp to try to make an impression and earn a spot on the team.”

More on that World Juniors comment later.

Yzerman’s goal beyond filling the team with premium talent is making sure that his young and upcoming prospects are surrounded by the right players. Though Nick Leddy’s numbers weren’t eye-popping in Detroit, his experience in the league was able to help Seider along the way. Marc Staal’s mentoring also factored into another season with Detroit.

The same is being applied here, though Seider is now in the fold and likely an early front runner to have an A sewn onto his sweater. Seider might be an anomaly in that sense, but Yzerman has now in Seider what they need. Edvinsson will continue to build onto that.

But outside of Seider, Filip Hronek, Chiarot, and Olli Maatta, there’s still a couple openings there. Jake Walman and Gustav Lindstrom are fighting for those final spots, while one shouldn’t sleep on Albert Johansson, who could also impress. Hagg and Jordan Oesterle could also enter into the conversation.

Truth: Edvinsson Could Also Challenge for the Calder

This is absolutely true. Not only is he sporting +1500 odds to win – the same betting line that oddsmakers saddled Seider with this time last year, Edvinsson’s got more talent on the roster to ease him in. What made Seider’s Calder win so impressive is that he stood out as one of the organization’s best players right out of the box. In fact for a large stretch of the season, it was debated whether Raymond or Seider would ultimately win the Calder.

This is ultimately if he does make the roster. It is a little more crowded than it was with Seider and beyond that, there could be hiccups along the way because at the end of the day, he’s still only 19.

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But the Detroit Red Wings knew they were getting a strong defenseman with a huge upside. With every step of the way, Edvinsson has gotten better, though not always coming with the eye-popping hits Seider was dishing out along the way.

As Yzerman pointed out, they’re certainly different players. But if that upside does indeed continue, there’s certainly a chance he could be in the Calder conversation, too.

Lie: Seider’s Successes Put More Pressure on Edvinsson To Step Up

With all of the successes Seider experienced, what if Edvinsson isn’t as good? Or in another way, what if Edvinsson doesn’t live up to expectations? Some pundits, analysts and fans are almost betting on a Seider-Edvinsson blue line of doom to be punishing other teams.

All being said, is too much pressure already being heaped on the young defenseman? After all, his experience in the “men’s league” isn’t as robust as Seider’s. Beyond that, his World Championships were a little less than where expectations were set at. Injury saw to a short sample size, too.

So will it ramp up the pressure on Edvinsson succeeding? Probably not. At this point, Edvinsson has hit every mark in his young career. Perhaps it won’t be at Seider’s speed, but Edvinsson has shown plenty already that buoys the optimism Yzerman and others in the organization have in his abilities.

At the end of the day, Edvinsson is a year younger and played one season less than Seider from a professional standpoint. But the comparisons can be tossed out once camps begin. Ultimately, that’s what will be the deciding factor for Edvinsson cracking the opening-day lineup.

Certainly, Seider and Raymond are a good start. But it’s more likely that Edvinsson continues the forward momentum. If that’s the case, the Detroit Red Wings are sitting in a pretty good spot heading into the season.

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TAV

I think there is definitely more pressure on Edvinsson. It is because of Seider made fans look too cautious. Because as fans we are many times over the top positive or negative we now are expecting Calder race season or disappointment.

I remember many people saying Seider looked great but had yet to prove he could do it in the NHL. I remember some saying he had proven nothing until he did it at NHL level. Totally disagreed but I did agree with those thinking it is often a transition so temper expectations for the first year. My expectations were 3rd line to start and if he works up to regular 2nd line duty consider it a great learning year. Idea was as a rookie D at his age should not expect too much but we should get glimpses of how good he can be while also seeing rookie mistakes while adjusting to NHL players. Well obviously he blew that whole thinking up. So now we have expectations I see opposite of what they were for Seider. This is not fair or realistic.

First he is different and not as physical but also younger and not as experienced outside the SHL. I have huge expectations for him but not this year. This year I have the same expectations as I did for Seider. He does better great, but if he just gets his first year done and shows growth while doing it it’s all good. In 2-3 years I expect both of them to be anchors on the D. How they get there doesn’t matter to me.

Tom Rady

Tav U think you make an interesting point. I think its possible Simon might start the year in Grand Rapids, if it does happen its not the end of the world. The reason I say that is Moritz had a year in the American League and a year in Sweden. Simon has just had the year in Sweden. I do think that matters, as the year in the more physical American League makes a big difference. That could really help Simon too. Wherever he is , you just want him playing a lot in all situations. Finally I think there will be less pressure for Simon because with the new aquisitons, there will be more talent around him than Moritz had. Lets just all calm down and enjoy watching him play. One thing I love about Stevie Y is he does not succumb to media and fan pressure. He will do what he thinks is right about everything but especially about handling young players. The Tigers need somebody like him who has the same track record and knowledge in baseball. We can only hope they find that kind of guy

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